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Dear Oh Dear c) The Anabaptists did not develop in the United
Kingdom but in eastern Europe. Several
Dear Sol & Anton; Anabaptist communes developed later in UK but
never to such a significant extent as they did
I have just received C.A.L.L. 25 (Spring 2005). As throughout North America.
usual, it is full of interesting material.
d) New Italy (Nuevo Italia) formed in Australia in
Most interesting, at least to me, is the article on 1882, not 1880. Its collapse had as much to do
page 7, ‘Utopian Societies: from Pythagorus to with their young people losing interest in
Damanhur’, based on an interview with me when utopianism as to their intermarrying outside the
I was at Damanhur last year. The reason why this community. Many young men went to fight in
is so interesting to me is not because I am vain WW1 to escape communal restrictions. The
and like to read my own words — but because second and third generation moved into
there are so many errors in the report. mainstream society.
I have no idea why these e) Sol & Anton, please rest
errors have arisen but three assured that I am, of course,
theories come to mind: aware that the idealism of
the Jewish youth movement
1) Both the interviewer and I from early 20th century
may have been too far into Germany persists, at least to
our third bottle of Chianti some extent, within the
when I was interviewed? contemporary Kibbutz
movement of Israel. I believe
2) This material has been that I probably stated that
translated from English into ‘there is almost no trace left
Italian, through Hebrew and of this in Germany’. But
Korean, then back to English (perhaps via please be reassured — I have not forgotten my
Swahili) and got rather garbled along the way? Kibbutznik friends.
3) Having recently turned 60, my occasional f) The oldest still-active intentional community
‘senior moments’ might have sort of slurred is called Sabbathday Lake (not The Sabbath
together that afternoon and I was losing the plot Lake), and was established by the Shakers in USA
when interviewed. (Some of my students would in 1794.
probably agree to this assessment ! )
g) I certainly still regard Findhorn Foundation as
I do not mean to malign the good folks at an intentional community. I have no idea what I
Damanhur who interviewed me, but please let would have meant if I really said that it was
me correct a few errors in this article in the last ‘something less than an intentional community’.
C.A.L.L.: It has certainly changed dramatically over the
past decade but that does not mean that it is no
a) ‘We always speak about intentional longer an intentional community. There are
communities, so as to distinguish them from elements in the rapid growth of Damanhur which
those that have always existed’ is probably remind me of the Findhorn Foundations dramatic
supposed to refer to the distinction between changes, and the problems this has entailed, and
those social groupings which appear to exist I was trying to make this comparison rather than
simply because that is ‘just the way things are’ maligning Findhorn, Damanhur or anyone else.
— and those which are intentionally created
through a conscious process. We refer to the There may well be other errors in this piece, but
latter as intentional communities. these are the most obvious and troubling.
b) Homakoeion was probably the first intentional I would really appreciate if you could include
community (at least in the west). It was these corrections in the next C.A.L.L.
developed by Pythagorus and his followers in
about 525 BC, not ‘250 A.C.’ Bill Metcalf
B.Metcalf@griffith.edu.au
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